Comments on: Subjecting this Objective Third Dimension. http://clearlyenlight.com/subjecting-objective-world An Enlightened Awareness in Consciousness Fri, 03 Sep 2010 07:15:52 +0000 hourly 1 By: ClearlyEnlight http://clearlyenlight.com/subjecting-objective-world#comment-44 ClearlyEnlight Mon, 06 Aug 2007 19:08:00 +0000 http://clearlyenlight.com/2007/07/22/subjecting-this-objective-world/#comment-44 The darkness battles through deception and ego-driven behaviors such as, selfishness, greed, arrogance, hate, and so on. The battle for the light is to conquer the bad by doing good, seeking truth to come out of the deception. The darkness battles by harding the heart of people. I am taking about the children of light and darkness, spirit and human. <br/><br/>Of course all things are subjective to our spirit, which is formless. Although our spirit (true self) is stuck in the human cycle. If you don't believe this and the cement brick did not work. Take your hand and put it flat on a 2x2 and drive a nail (a thick one) through your palm. <br/><br/>So is the blood, and pain, and being stuck there on the 2x2 a part of who you are? Or are you just some place else not experiencing the displeasure? Or did this already happen and what your going through is just some dream? <br/><br/>Of course our true self as spirit is not effected, nor can our spirit be harmed. Although since the spirit is stuck as a human, what we go through, becomes reality. <br/><br/>If you don't believe this then try the above concept with a 2x2, take a nail an drive it through your palm with a hammer. <br/><br/>The Bhagavad Gita clearly teaches about our true Self. What you are teaching is nothing new. The ego attaches to the identity of the body. Our true source is our formless spirit. The problem is that even when a person transcends the ego; the person will still be in human form.<br/><br/>If you quit eating food, your human self will die, your formless spirit (higher Self) never dies, it will just go into another womb, unless the person came to a higher level of consciousness. The darkness battles through deception and ego-driven behaviors such as, selfishness, greed, arrogance, hate, and so on. The battle for the light is to conquer the bad by doing good, seeking truth to come out of the deception. The darkness battles by harding the heart of people. I am taking about the children of light and darkness, spirit and human.

Of course all things are subjective to our spirit, which is formless. Although our spirit (true self) is stuck in the human cycle. If you don’t believe this and the cement brick did not work. Take your hand and put it flat on a 2×2 and drive a nail (a thick one) through your palm.

So is the blood, and pain, and being stuck there on the 2×2 a part of who you are? Or are you just some place else not experiencing the displeasure? Or did this already happen and what your going through is just some dream?

Of course our true self as spirit is not effected, nor can our spirit be harmed. Although since the spirit is stuck as a human, what we go through, becomes reality.

If you don’t believe this then try the above concept with a 2×2, take a nail an drive it through your palm with a hammer.

The Bhagavad Gita clearly teaches about our true Self. What you are teaching is nothing new. The ego attaches to the identity of the body. Our true source is our formless spirit. The problem is that even when a person transcends the ego; the person will still be in human form.

If you quit eating food, your human self will die, your formless spirit (higher Self) never dies, it will just go into another womb, unless the person came to a higher level of consciousness.

]]> By: Alban, Teacher of God http://clearlyenlight.com/subjecting-objective-world#comment-43 Alban, Teacher of God Mon, 06 Aug 2007 04:44:00 +0000 http://clearlyenlight.com/2007/07/22/subjecting-this-objective-world/#comment-43 Well, what battle? Do you think the light fights back? Does light even know of darkness? Isn't there light everywhere where there is light? Does not the darkness disappear where there is light? So, what battle?<br/><br/>Take the example with the cement brick, what are the assumptions that you have to accept for yourself and who you are, to even make this statement? Who are you in your idea about yourself, to let yourself do this? In other words, what are you trying to prove? Truth certainly does not need such defense. Are you the darkness? Are you pretending to be a thought form, while being all the light there is? <br/><br/>A Course in Miracles is very clear on this. There is no discussion and no doubt. You are not a body, you are free, and still as God created you. Therefore, pain is a wrong perspective. Therefore, you might say, the pain is real, but you do not exist as that self-identity. Well, what battle? Do you think the light fights back? Does light even know of darkness? Isn’t there light everywhere where there is light? Does not the darkness disappear where there is light? So, what battle?

Take the example with the cement brick, what are the assumptions that you have to accept for yourself and who you are, to even make this statement? Who are you in your idea about yourself, to let yourself do this? In other words, what are you trying to prove? Truth certainly does not need such defense. Are you the darkness? Are you pretending to be a thought form, while being all the light there is?

A Course in Miracles is very clear on this. There is no discussion and no doubt. You are not a body, you are free, and still as God created you. Therefore, pain is a wrong perspective. Therefore, you might say, the pain is real, but you do not exist as that self-identity.

]]> By: ClearlyEnlight http://clearlyenlight.com/subjecting-objective-world#comment-41 ClearlyEnlight Fri, 03 Aug 2007 22:32:00 +0000 http://clearlyenlight.com/2007/07/22/subjecting-this-objective-world/#comment-41 I kind of know where your coming from, although take a cement brick ( a heavy one) and drop it on your foot. Did it hurt, that is called the present. Now a person can transcend and find the pain subjective, which it is. Although if you broke a toe or bone, I am sure you will go to the doctor. So saying that this world is already over does not make sense. <br/><br/>The wicked, deceiving lower entities have a person right where they want them, if they can get the person to not believe that they exist. <br/><br/>The battle is the darkness against the light. I kind of know where your coming from, although take a cement brick ( a heavy one) and drop it on your foot. Did it hurt, that is called the present. Now a person can transcend and find the pain subjective, which it is. Although if you broke a toe or bone, I am sure you will go to the doctor. So saying that this world is already over does not make sense.

The wicked, deceiving lower entities have a person right where they want them, if they can get the person to not believe that they exist.

The battle is the darkness against the light.

]]> By: Alban http://clearlyenlight.com/subjecting-objective-world#comment-40 Alban Fri, 03 Aug 2007 19:38:00 +0000 http://clearlyenlight.com/2007/07/22/subjecting-this-objective-world/#comment-40 The good thing is that this world is all already over, just as it never was. To say the world is under the power of the wickedness does not help me. If I truly subject this world to my mind as the cause of it, including my own self-image and body, then the devil or what you call the wicked ones, can only be an idea of my mind, projected outside of me. Yet the power is still in my mind, whether I am aware of it or not. Thank God. Truly a new idea to accept and be happy. All I have to do is to accept it and give it away, practice it in every circumstance, without defending myself against what seems to be attacking me, for it can only be my thoughts.<br/><br/>Thank you for all your teaching. The good thing is that this world is all already over, just as it never was. To say the world is under the power of the wickedness does not help me. If I truly subject this world to my mind as the cause of it, including my own self-image and body, then the devil or what you call the wicked ones, can only be an idea of my mind, projected outside of me. Yet the power is still in my mind, whether I am aware of it or not. Thank God. Truly a new idea to accept and be happy. All I have to do is to accept it and give it away, practice it in every circumstance, without defending myself against what seems to be attacking me, for it can only be my thoughts.

Thank you for all your teaching.

]]> By: A.V. Michaels http://clearlyenlight.com/subjecting-objective-world#comment-38 A.V. Michaels Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:08:00 +0000 http://clearlyenlight.com/2007/07/22/subjecting-this-objective-world/#comment-38 Great post; lots of good thoughts here. Great post; lots of good thoughts here.

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